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		<title>Are Satanic Rituals Real?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 09:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For those of you who doubt that secret society and satanic rituals are real, here is a true story. A little girl from a Satanic family is now a grown woman and tell her childhood experience to many. She is now a Christian and has been healed in many ways. She has an International ministry [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those of you who doubt that secret society and satanic rituals are real, here is a true story. A little girl from a Satanic family is now a grown woman and tell her childhood experience to many. She is now a Christian and has been healed in many ways. She has an International ministry that helps abused and neglected children. (link to her video in the below)</p>
<p>What happened was her family practiced Satanism in secret. On the surface they were a typcial American family, but underneath the horror was unspeakable. The father had raped the girl repeatedly, producing babies for human sacrifices in rituals. She was forced to participate in the rituals and drink blood.</p>
<p>I have heard more from other reports from former satanists and survivors. The accounts are pure darkness. It is so depressing that I need to hear Joel Osteen to balance it out!</p>
<p>This girl was allowed to go to church, however, which was perplexing to me. I sometimes heard that the occult allows their slaves to go to Churches, because it helps them inflitrate the churches and it lowers suicidal urges in the victims. In fact, I heard that they are not allowed to practice occultism during the day, for fear that they would become too depressed they would commmit suicides.</p>
<p>The degree of control these people have on their slaves are so strong, because they systematically create &#8220;human multiples&#8221;, which means a human who has dissociative idenitity disorder.</p>
<p>The amount and frequency of abuses they inflicted on their victims are calculated. The goal is precise—to traumatize the child to the point of dissociating the trauma enough to create a separate mind in the child. A personality began with a piece of isolated memory, which the victim unconsciously created to contain the traumatic memory. The &#8220;trainers&#8221; further develops that memory into a personality that function they way they want it to function, through hynotism, drug, and other brainwash technique.</p>
<p>This is how a DID victim, aka human multiple, or sleeper, is created folks.</p>
<p>Now back to the girl, so the girl was able to hear the Gospel through a Christian neighbor. She knew in her heart that Jesus was real. She was only 8 at the time. It was not until 18 that she ran away by marrying a man. It ended in divorce, and she was pregnant. She aborted the child (regrettably), and continue in her journey of forgiveness and seeking God&#8230; and now see what she has become! To watch her testimony, go <a href="http://youtu.be/ZOj76xrG62k">here.</a></p>
<p>Her story resembles that of many survivors from occult families. Who knows, maybe a family in your neighborhood is an occult family. On the surface they may have everything together, but someone in that family, maybe the cute little boy or girl, is crying for help. We are called to be the sheppard, to proclaim freedom, and to release the oppressed. If we don&#8217;t help, no one will. In some places, the authority is heavily inflitrated by the occult, and the mainstream media is so owned that they won&#8217;t publize these things. We are often time the only people who stand in the way of this dark force. It is important for us to discern and pray for those around us. You never know what kind of tasks God will assign to you when you pray for others.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Luke 4:18</span></strong></p>
<p>The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to preach  good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the  prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to release the oppressed</p></blockquote>
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		<title>Victory Over Darkness: Demonic Attacks Against Me</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2011 19:38:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just as predicted, my co-worker and I were attacked my demons respectively. It happened to me on December 20, 2010 at 5am, and then it happened to my co-worker on December 29, 2010, both in the early morning. Both happened within 9 days. We knew they were coming, because at the rate we were going [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just as predicted, my co-worker and I were attacked my demons respectively.</p>
<p>It happened to me on December 20, 2010 at 5am, and then it happened to my co-worker on December 29, 2010, both in the early morning. Both happened within 9 days.</p>
<p>We knew they were coming, because at the rate we were going we knew that Satan would have no choice but to show up visibly, just like he did when he manifested himself before Jesus and tempted him in the desert.</p>
<h3>Invisible If They Can, Confrontation If They Can&#8217;t</h3>
<p>The most powerful weapons against Christians are the invisible ones. They always try to make you think that they don&#8217;t exist, or at least not relevant to your daily life, but they were in fact the authors of confusions and deceptions that have been brainwashing and harassing the world, the churches, and many Christians. All sickness, curses, slaughters, horror, warfares, disasters, slavery, debts, and other evils can be traced by to demonic activities, directly or indirectly.</p>
<p>My co-worker Gary and I have been talking about exercising our faith and building the biblical churches. We refused to let any fear or excuse to stop us. For examples, I have never had formal theological training, but I didn&#8217;t let that deterred me from going to <a href="http://bible-verses-insights.com/2010/11/early-churches-restore-first-century-apostolic/ ">build the churches</a>; we have been trying to pray for and lay hand on the sick for a while, and never let the lack of results discouraged us, or made us think that healing wasn&#8217;t always God&#8217;s will; I didn&#8217;t let financial scarcity to intimidate me, nor cause me to doubt if God wanted His servants to prosper; and I continued to work on this blog, trying to teach the Bible as it is.</p>
<p>We were predicting that one day the evil spirits would have to reveal their identities and taunt us, because they were running out of their <a href="http://bible-verses-insights.com/2010/03/deception-in-the-evangelical-church/">subtler lies</a>, so they would eventually do what they did to Jesus—direct confrontation.</p>
<h3>Jesus Was Like Us Once</h3>
<p>We thought that Jesus probably hadn&#8217;t seen evil spirits nor Satan until the start of his ministry, when Satan tempted him in the desert for 40 day. Although Jesus had never seen God the Father, nor Satan in the first 30 years of his life, and that he probably didn&#8217;t remember what happened before He was conceived by the Holy Spirit, he remained true to each and every word of the Bible, and the fact that the scripture was pointing toward him as the Messiah. (Luke 2:41-47; 2:52; 24:44)</p>
<p>The fact that Jesus grew in faith, wisdom, stature, and in the understanding of the Bible probably had agitated Satan so much, and that hiding and pretending he didn&#8217;t exist won&#8217;t do anything to Jesus, and he knew it. Jesus believed he was the Son of God even though nothing extraordinary seemed to have happened until then. This forced Satan out of the closet and challanged Jesus, &#8220;<strong>If thou be the Son of God,</strong> command that these stones be made bread!&#8221;. (Luke 4:3)</p>
<h3>So What Happened?</h3>
<p>I was sleeping and had a dream. In dream, my co-worker and I were charged by the police for non-exist crimes, because we had been doing street evangelism and somehow it bothered them. The dream mom of Gary was upset and dream Gary was upset. He suddenly attacked me, and I said &#8220;hey!&#8221;, and guarded myself in a stand by position.</p>
<p>And then I woke up in a very peculiar posture. The moment I was conscious I found my forearms crossed at the wrist, and feets crossed at the end of the lower legs. The limbs didn&#8217;t touch each other, and they stayed in the air, under the sheet. My arms crossed in front of my chest, and the lower legs crossed in the air without touching the mattress. My neck was compressed against the pillow by the weight of my head, so I   might be compressing my own nerve, which made me unable to move. However, the posture I was in was too peculiar to be simply dismissed as nerve compression.</p>
<p>It felt like I was locked telekinetically. It was a strong force that locked my limbs and it felt like coming from within the limbs. My limbs were hanging in the air even though I was in a &#8220;sleep paralysis&#8221;. It was more likely to be demonic.</p>
<p>What happened immediately right after absolutely revealed the nature of this phenomenon.</p>
<p>Suddenly, a third hand came out from under my sheet and it shaked in a  mocking, teasing way. I saw it with my eyes wide open. It was like 5 inches from my face. It  was dream Gary&#8217;s hand that just attacked me in the dream.  Now it revealed itself in reality. The hand still had the long sleeve that Gary had in the dream. It came  out from the dream, through the sheet, and was mocking me by shaking above my face while I was totally paralyzed.</p>
<p>Almost at the same moment, a very clear idea registered in my mind, and I suddenly knew the name of this demon. Its name was &#8220;The Magic Hand&#8221;. I believed it was Holy Spirit who informed me of this piece of information so I could rebuke it.</p>
<p>I tried to rebuke it in the name of Jesus, but the words came out muffled and slurred. I said in my mind, &#8220;the power of God drives you out&#8221;. Instantly, as this thought came, the hand was gone and I was released from the paralysis. I opened my mouth, rebuked it clearly this time, and prayed verbally against Satan.</p>
<p>I also prayed against whoever that might have casted a spell against me. Sometimes, witches or warlocks who live in the neighborhood would curse or cast some spells on the Christians or churches in the area. I believed that whoever was sending the demon after me was repaid 7 times over, because this was what I prayed. (Proverbs 6:31)</p>
<p>I also declared a war against Satan, saying that I would punch with 7 times for every attack he launched against me. I got to have to stick with my words! Curry Blake taught me this in one of his sermons.</p>
<p>After that I stayed awake for a couple of hours, and as time passed, shock turned into excitement. It seemed like the attack was a validation rather than a bad thing. I actually laughed because it was hilarious to have a hand coming out from under the sheet. We only have two hands! A third one is out of place.</p>
<h3>Then They Attacked Gary</h3>
<p>When I shared this with Gary, he was &#8220;envy&#8221;, because he wanted to be a threat to Satan too—enough to force him out in the open. He said he didn&#8217;t want to see demons from real close like I did, but rather kept them from a distant and had camps of angels surrounding him. He wanted to have the fun, but not the risk. What a smart guy. (Job 1:9-11; Psalms 34:7)</p>
<p>Then it happened to him 9 days later. He had a dream, in which he was in a room, looking at the mirror, and saw four reflections of himself. Each of the four faces of Gary was in a seperate grid. It was laid out like a comic book, two columns and rows.</p>
<p>He didn&#8217;t realize that the &#8220;mirror images of himself&#8221; didn&#8217;t reflect his facial expression, because in dreams you don&#8217;t follow logic and physical laws exactly, and you oftentimes won&#8217;t consciously realize it while in dreams.</p>
<p>He had many nightmares before, and he was usually too scared to even scream. Later, he came up with a solution so he could at least call for help next time. He decided he would say one word at a time if monsters or ghostly characters harass him in his dreams again.</p>
<p>This time, he calmly asked the mirror images, &#8220;Are you a demon?&#8221; One of the images looked surprised, and it inclined its head a little, staring at Gary. Its face turned blue, and it uttered, &#8220;How do you know?&#8221; Then Gary woke up, and sensed a hand was grabbing one of his legs. Suddenly he heard a low, raspy voice, saying &#8220;Don&#8217;t go, I want to hear more from you!&#8221; then it was over.</p>
<p>He forgot to use the name of Jesus Christ during the whole thing though.</p>
<p>He too, wasn&#8217;t afraid. He thought he surprised Satan. He thought he would be afraid if something like this happens, but he wasn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>We felt that we have both passed a test. The events confirmed what we are doing have become a threat to Satan.</p>
<h3>Can Demons Battle Christians In The Open?</h3>
<p>Yup, they don&#8217;t have to only harrass you in dreams, in your minds, or through inner voices. It is rare for Christians to encounter demons in the open, but it does happen. Some Christians have exposed the identity of the enemies by actually seeing them. They are everywhere: in the sky, homes, streets, bars&#8230;</p>
<p>I believe whether you can force them out in the open, or see through their invisible covers under the bright sky really depends on your faith, and how far you are willing to go. If you practice the words of God no matter what, such as to pray for the sick, cast out demons, and preach the Gospel, and take the words of God literally, then eventually there will be no place to hide for the demons, fallen angels, and even Satan himself.</p>
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		<title>Deception In The Evangelical Church</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 05:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Be careful of what you hear even in the churches, because demonic lies are everywhere, including all church denominations. Here are some of the demonic strongholds (Lies from demons) I have witnessed in common evangelical church setting, because I am an evangelical myself so I am familiar with our own faults. UPDATE: 2010 Nov 4. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="color: #000000;">Be careful of what you hear even in the churches, because demonic lies are everywhere, including all church denominations.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">Here are some of the demonic strongholds (Lies from demons) I have witnessed in common evangelical church setting, because I am an evangelical myself so I am familiar with our own faults. </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><strong>UPDATE: 2010 Nov 4. I am no longer an evangelical. I would call myself a biblical Christian and that&#8217;s all. </strong><br />
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<p><span style="color: #000000;">Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I am not saying every evangelical Christian believes in these demonic lies, but I am saying that these lies are infiltrating our rank, so beware evangelical believers. This is a spiritual warfare. Those who see the truth must stand strong.<br />
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<p><span style="color: #000000;">I generalized some discussions I had with certain pastors over the years to sum things up: (I reply in green. If I enclose the green with * *, that means I didn&#8217;t really say it out loud. It was in my head. If there is no* but just green, I did say it out loud)</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">1 Typical Christian: Hearing God&#8217;s Voice is for special people, or the deceived people.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">2 Pastor: You can&#8217;t understand the Bible without going through our approved seminaries, and if you happen to know the Bible very well, you are either Pharisees or you are thinking too much. A lay Christian shouldn&#8217;t know his Bible unless he wants to show off.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">3 Pastor: Don&#8217;t ask for the gift of Tongue, it&#8217;s dangerous.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">4 Pastor: If you sin but you don&#8217;t repent, then you are not a Christian to begin with. But <a href="http://bible-verses-insights.com/2009/10/can-you-lose-your-salvation-unforgivable-sin/">you can&#8217;t lose your salvation if you are really saved!</a> </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"> Sai Kit: Pastor, what if I sin and not repent?</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"> Pastor: You can&#8217;t!! </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"> Sai Kit think: So I can sin but I cannot refuse to repent? Why doesn&#8217;t God work me the other way around so I can&#8217;t sin but can repent?</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">5 Pastor: Go see a psychiatrist if you have any sign of mental problem. Don&#8217;t come to me! Thinking too much about bible prophecies is a sign of mental problem. A normal Christian won&#8217;t think               about anything in the Bible as much as you. They don&#8217;t ask these question! You must have a problem.<br />
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<p><span style="color: #000000;">6 Pastor: Your parents&#8217; sin, generational curses (What!?), or verbal curse don&#8217;t affect you in any way</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">7 Pastor: If you believe otherwise on #6, then you are deceived by the Pentecostal.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">8 Pastor: No one ask for help to cast out demons in this church, so there are no demons in our church. </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"> Sai Kit murmur in his mind: Who are going to ask for help if you will either label us as being deceived by the Pentecostal or send us to the doctor?</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">9 Pastor: If you tell me a Christian is demonized (demons live in him), then he must be weak in faith. But since no one ask for help, no one has demon in this church. </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"> Sai Kit think: So no one in your church is weak in faith in your church then? All elites, wohoo! But how come I don&#8217;t see anyone moving the mountain or healing any disease in your church if        everyone is strong in faith?</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">10 Re:#4, </span><span style="color: #008000;">Sai Kit: but pastor! I know so and so, they did this and this but they don&#8217;t repent. </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"> Pastor: They are not Christians to begin with!</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"> Sai Kit: Pastor, more than 90% of Christian brother watch porn&#8230; and more than half the church sin and not repent. Rationalization and refusal to repent are so common! </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"> Pastor: I don&#8217;t know about this. No one told me that. </span><br />
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<p><span style="color: #000000;">11. Pastor: If you belong to a church fellowship group, attend every Sunday service and Sunday school, then you are doing fine. </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"> Sai Kit: But pastor, like I said in #10, 90% of brothers watch porn or many sin without repentant even though they did the whole nine yards you told them to</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"> Pastor: They are not real Christian then.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"> Sai Kit: But they believe the Bible cover to cover! </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"> Pastor: It&#8217;s just head knowledge!! Head knowledge doesn&#8217;t make a person a real Christian!! </span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">12 <span style="color: #008000;">Re:#11 Sai Kit: I did all you have taught me to do, but I still struggle with this, this, and that sins. What&#8217;s my problem? My buddies sin too but some of them don&#8217;t repent for a long time.</span> </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"> Pastor: Doing good works doesn&#8217;t mean you guys are real Christians!! All you have are just head knowledge, not genuine experience with God! </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"> Sai Kit think: I guess I am going to be labeled as a false Christian if I keep asking&#8230;</span><br />
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<p><span style="color: #000000;">13: Re: #12 </span><span style="color: #008000;">Sai Kit: But why do I still struggle with sins after I repent?</span> <span style="color: #008000;">What if I can&#8217;t stop myself and one day fall into a heavier sin?</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"> Pastor: A mature person won&#8217;t ask that question!</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">14 Pastor: The more money you have the more sorrowful you will become.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"> Sai Kit: But the Old Testament says God loves to <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy%208:13,18;%20Deuteronomy%2028:3-5,8,11,12&amp;version=NIV">bless us with prosperity</a>! </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"> Pastor: Old Testament is in the past. We are in the New Testament era.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">15 Pastor: God doesn&#8217;t guarantee your Christian life will be dandy, rich, peaceful, successful&#8230; </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"> Sai Kit: But Pastor, my life sucks too much, walking around poor and fail everything, (Thought: something must be wrong with our teaching)</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"> Pastor: The Bible never guarantee your life will be happy and easy!!!</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"> Sai Kit: But Pastor, the Old Testament says&#8230;</span> <span style="color: #000000;">(back to #14)</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">16 Typical Christian: If it&#8217;s God will, brother Ken&#8217;s will recover from cancer.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"> Sai Kit: But brother, what&#8217;s God&#8217;s will?</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #000000;"> Typical Christian</span>: Who am I to say?</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">17 Pastor: If you don&#8217;t devote your entire days to do job search</span> <span style="color: #008000;">*randomly like God has nothing to say about your career*</span> <span style="color: #000000;">just like everyone does, but take time to pray and seek God&#8217;s will for your job  and wait for Him to speak before you take any job, then you are lazy. God doesn&#8217;t tell His people which job to take, it&#8217;s too small for Him. </span><span style="color: #008000;">*Go back to #1*</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">18 Pastor: Stop talking about the Bible so much and asking pointy questions about it, and don&#8217;t talk to people about these things, otherwise you can&#8217;t bring them to the church because they would think you are weird. Talk about &#8220;casual&#8221; things instead.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">19 Pastor: Christians are supposed to be poor and lowly. Get a 9-5 jobs so you can fit in with our church. 90% of our church members are 9-5 employees, who are you to think that you are called to start a business? Don&#8217;t be too ambitious and conceited!</span><span style="color: #008000;"> *Update: Now that I think of<span style="color: #008000;"> </span></span><span style="color: #008000;">#11,<span style="color: #008000;"> </span></span><span style="color: #008000;">maybe 90% of our church members aren&#8217;t even Christians!* <span style="color: #000000;">Don&#8217;t forget that &#8220;I told you so&#8221;, your so called entrepreneurial projects will fail in two years and you will get stuck at where you are now. <span style="color: #008000;">See what happen after 2 years at #34</span></span><br />
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<p><span style="color: #000000;">20 Pastor: Don&#8217;t mention demons. Why ALWAYS [loud] talk about demons? You are worshiping Satan if you talk about him SO MUCH! Just talk about Jesus!</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">21  Bible Study leaders: This is the New testament era. The Old Testament was past and it was so difficult to read. Let&#8217;s just stick with the New Testament in our Bible Study.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">22  Pastor: The Old Testament was in the past. The Four Gospels were before Jesus&#8217; crucifixion, and Revelation is about the future, </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"> Sai Kit think: so let just focus on the New Testament books that remain?</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">23  Lay Christians: Don&#8217;t talk about the Bible too much in the church, it&#8217;s too heavy for lay Christians. Let&#8217;s balance our prayers and Bible studies with fun activities.</span></p>
<p>24. Re#5 <span style="color: #008000;">Sai Kit: But pastor, I thought we are supposed to pray and read the Bible to find out the cure from God if we have any problem with our mental health? </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"> Pastor: It has nothing to do with prayers. Don&#8217;t talk to your therapists about the Bible. </span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;">25. Pastor: Idols, statues, charm, and occult objects of any kind cannot affect you in any way. We are Christians. We can put any object in our home, even if it has spell on it. Go watch any horror movies if you want, The Exorcist, Harry Potter, whatever. They have no ill effect on us! </span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"> Sai Kit: But Pastor! Some people saw real demons and real occult magic in these things? If they have no ill effect, why would Satan put these real evil messages in them? </span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"> Pastor: Stop talking about Satan! You are worshiping demons if you talk about him too much!! <span style="color: #008000;">*Back to #20</span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;">26. Re:#4 <span style="color: #008000;">Sai Kit: But pastor, like I told you in #15 I walk around poor, I just don&#8217;t have money to see doctor, therapists, and psychiatrists. </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"> Pastor: &#8230;</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;">27.  Pastor: Regular fasting is legalistic. It hurts your body. Regular fasting is just good work, it might not help you spiritually.<span style="color: #008000;"> </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"> Sai Kit: So what helps? I did everything you told me but still struggle with sins. </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"> Pastor: &#8230; [Repeat what he says in #11, 12, 28, 29]</span> </span><br />
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<p><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;">28. Pastor: Don&#8217;t talk to me about the problem of porn or *Dread Word*! </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;">[I used a tiny voice when I say the </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><span style="color: #008000;">*Dread Word*</span><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;">, but he increased his volume when he mentioned the dread word, even though some Christians sisters are chatting next door. Thanks Pastor!]</span> Don&#8217;t you know it&#8217;s wrong to walk around and ask EVERYONE question like this? </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"> Sai Kit think: But Pastor, when did I ask EVERYONE this question? I was asking you </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;">29. Pastor: You sin because you choose to sin. Addiction is an illusion; an excuse! </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;">30. Re: #3 Pastor: If people in this church have gift of tongue, fine, but don&#8217;t use it in the church because it would disrupt others. No one knows what they talk about if they pray in tongue. </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"> Sai Kit think: </span><span style="color: #008000;">Can&#8217;t we design some programs and meeting that allow people to pray in tongue? Why should we restrain the gift of God to accommodate the tradition of men? Why don&#8217;t we seek the gift of Interpretation so we can interpret the tongue? Won&#8217;t they disrupt their family if they pray in tongue at home? [Too bad I didn't think of this rebuttal at the time] </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #000000;">31 Pastor: People won&#8217;t read your Christian blog, because you are not a certified, approved-seminary trained pastor! See #2 </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"> Sai Kit: But pastor, I got 2000 visitor per month and it&#8217;s only beginning. People don&#8217;t care who you are as long as what you write is good. </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"> Pastor: &#8230; </span></span><span style="color: #000000;"><br />
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<p><span style="color: #000000;">32 Pastor: Stop writing journal about your walk with God, it only make you think even more (See #5), go see a doctor instead and don&#8217;t forget #24. You have already mentioned prophecy, salvation, church living, demons, and the whole nine yards in such a short meeting with me. All you talk about is pointy question. People would think you are weird.  See? you have a problem. (Go to #18)</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #000000;">33 Re:#26 Pastor: You walk around poor because you lack focus. You think about the whole nine yards in #32 too much that you fail to land and keep a good job!!!</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;">34 <span style="color: #008000;">Sai Kit: Pastor! 2 years ago you said that all my entrepreneurial projects will fail. They failed! </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;">What do you think? </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;">*Now I had failed to make 1 cent from most of them. Only one project made me $3.17 and I can&#8217;t even cash it in. Even my younger brother did much better than that, I guess it&#8217;s because he doesn&#8217;t have a pastor who cursed him with Pastoral authority. He doesn&#8217;t go to church. Curses are real! (See #6)* </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"> Pastor: [sheepishly, with a "gentle, kind, typical pastor look" on his face] Give it another try! </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"> Me: &#8230; </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;">35. <span style="color: #008000;">Re# 27 Sai Kit: Since I can&#8217;t find the answers from you in #11, 12, 27, 28, 29, I went out and read such and such books. I sensed that the Holy Spirit was leading me to read those books. What do you think about their teaching? </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"> Pastor: You are doing too much that you confused yourself&#8230; [repeating #32]&#8230;and remember head knowledge doesn&#8217;t help you! [repeating #12]&#8230; but if you do the list on #11 within our church you will be fine&#8230; those books you read were written by famous preachers&#8230; On the judgment day you will see many nameless pastors, evangelists, and ministers who will get their rewards in heaven.. </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"> Sai Kit think: So that means you are one of those nameless pastors then?&#8230; hm&#8230; I also read of many testimonies by Christians whom God had led to heaven and hell, and they reported that many pastors ended up in Hell even though they believed in #4 &#8230;hm&#8230;<br />
</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;">36.  Pastor: So few people come to our prayer meeting! </span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"> Sai Kit think: you forbid praying in tongue (#30), you refuse to pray for healing (#16), you discourage us from praying for prosperity (#14), you discourage us from battling demons (#20), you don&#8217;t let us confess our sins (#28), we don&#8217;t even know whether fasting or prayers is useful (#27), you say prayers are useless for psychological problems (#24), you don&#8217;t let us keep watch and prepare for the end time (#5), you tell us not to seek God&#8217;s face (#37), and you told us not to seek God&#8217;s will on something that occupies us 8 hours per day 40 hours a week such as career (#17), then why should I go to your prayer meeting?<br />
</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;">37. Pastor: Don&#8217;t seek God&#8217;s face. If He shows up, you will either drop dead on the spot or you will be bossed around by Him so much you would rather die. </span><br />
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<h3><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;">Conclusion:<br />
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<p><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;">I am lucky that I am in an evangelical church. If I have been in the medieval Catholic Church, they would have labelled me as heretic and burn me on the stake for criticizing the church.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;"><strong>UPDATE: (2010 Nov 4) </strong>Wait, John Calvin burned someone on a stake for disagreeing with his theology before too, so hm&#8230; maybe I shouldn&#8217;t be so sure.<br />
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<p><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;">Demonic lies are everywhere.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;">See: <a href="http://bible-verses-insights.com/2010/11/early-churches-restore-first-century-apostolic/">Restoring the Early Churches</a> for the REAL answer to building the true Church of God.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color: #008000;"><span style="color: #000000;">See: <a href="http://bible-verses-insights.com/2010/04/form-of-godliness/">Form of Godliness? </a>To find out who are the modern Pharisees, the hypocrites in Jesus&#8217; time.<br />
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